
Credits:
Produced by: Lucy Kippist
Edited by: Morgan Sebastian Brown
Interviewer: Carrie Kwan
Guest: Phil Hayes-St Clair
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Introduction
Carrie (02:57):
Welcome to Mumbition, the podcast by Mums & Co. Today, I’m excited to introduce Phil Hayes‑St Clair — seasoned entrepreneur, values‑driven leader, executive coach and passionate advocate for women’s health. Phil has helped over 10,000 leaders grow their businesses through strategic partnerships, and he teaches innovation and entrepreneurship at UNSW AGSM. Let’s dive in.
What Drives Phil’s Work
Carrie (04:49):
Can you share a sentence or two that captures your ambition?
Phil (04:49):
There is opportunity for everyone to live the life they want. When I think about opportunity, I think about how companies grow together — and the kind of world I want my daughters to grow up in.
On Solving Real Problems
Carrie (05:20):
What’s one thing you wish you'd known earlier?
Phil (08:55):
Define the problem extremely well. Entrepreneurs fall in love with their ideas too quickly. You must speak to people to confirm whether the problem is real — or just real to you. Become the expert in the problem first; only then decide if there’s a viable business.
Entrepreneurship & Family Life
Carrie (12:03):
What’s your advice for small business owners juggling parental responsibilities?
Phil (12:32):
Know that it will be hard. Some days you’ll feel like you're doing well at work, others at home — rarely both. Zoom out. Over years, with ambition, you’ll make progress.
And the only people who will remember how hard you worked are your family — make that effort worthwhile.
Phil’s IDEAL Partnership Framework
Phil (15:09 – 19:54):
Phil breaks down his six‑part IDEAL partnership framework:
I – Intent: Shared intention matters.
D – Dual Benefit: At least two benefits for each party.
E – Era: Think in three‑year eras, not one‑year contracts.
A – Allies: Build multiple internal allies, not a single point of failure.
L – Land the First Win: Deliver a meaningful win within six months.
+ Next Best Alternative: Know your fallback if the partnership doesn’t proceed.
A Partnership Story That Changed Everything
Phil (23:04 – 25:24):
Phil shares how a cold LinkedIn message to the CEO of a multinational led to a rapid, transformative, multi‑year partnership. Within 24 hours their team replied; within three months, both organisations were collaborating closely.
Service, Leadership & Donating Blood
Carrie (25:24):
You've donated blood over 175 times — how has service shaped your leadership?
Phil (26:29 – 30:59):
Phil reflects on how the army taught him the power of community, courage and supporting others. Donating blood is, for him, a simple way to help a stranger in the fight of their life.
What Men Must Know About Women’s Health
Carrie (47:25):
How can we move beyond hope in women’s health?
Phil (47:25 – 54:25):
Phil explains the historical under‑investment in women’s health, the critical gaps in menopause education, and why men must:
Learn — especially about menopause
Participate in studies to strengthen research
Listen — without fixing or minimising
He stresses how better understanding women’s health improves families, workplaces and society.
Gender Equity, Parenting & Shared Roles
Phil (36:01 – 41:10):
Phil reflects on shifting norms, shared earning and caring responsibilities, and how both partners can lead meaningful careers if communication and load‑sharing are in place.
Policy, Early Childhood Education & Equity
Carrie (43:13):
What policy lever is most overlooked?
Phil (43:45 – 46:24):
He highlights early childhood education as one of the most transformative levers for child development, gender equality and enabling parents to work.
Looking Ahead
Phil (56:05):
Phil’s aspiration is to help more organisations partner effectively across industries and borders, using simple frameworks to create positive, scalable change.
Closing
Carrie (57:41):
Phil, thank you for an incredible conversation — and for your advocacy for women, families and community.
Phil (57:34):
Great to be here. Thanks, Carrie.